Comments on: Who Is Your Pastor? http://www.churchforhighschoolers.com/blog/who-is-your-pastor/ True North is the High School Ministry at Compass Bible Church in Aliso Viejo, California Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:13:11 +0000 hourly 1 Ray http://www.churchforhighschoolers.com/blog/who-is-your-pastor/#comment-35176 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:50:07 +0000 http://www.compasschurch.org/blogs/pastorbobby/who-is-your-pastor/#comment-35176 As a pastor and one who has had the privilege of serving in ministry for 34 years, I have never read a finer, more concise article on shepherding. At the same time, we as pastors have to make sure we are not using our authority as club or weapon. Our accountability before God is a heavy weight, but when that we take with joy in loving others. Oh, by the way, Pastor Mike and his brother were in my youth ministry wwayyyy back when in Long Beach, CA, and he never took me to Taco Bell! ;) Ray Schwartz, Lead Pastor, Pinecrest Community Church, Parker, CO. As a pastor and one who has had the privilege of serving in ministry for 34 years, I have never read a finer, more concise article on shepherding. At the same time, we as pastors have to make sure we are not using our authority as club or weapon. Our accountability before God is a heavy weight, but when that we take with joy in loving others.

Oh, by the way, Pastor Mike and his brother were in my youth ministry wwayyyy back when in Long Beach, CA, and he never took me to Taco Bell! ;)
Ray Schwartz, Lead Pastor, Pinecrest Community Church, Parker, CO.

]]> hunter http://www.churchforhighschoolers.com/blog/who-is-your-pastor/#comment-35175 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:49:30 +0000 http://www.compasschurch.org/blogs/pastorbobby/who-is-your-pastor/#comment-35175 I like this line a lot " It is not a battle of opinions. It’s not a tug-of-war between what Pastor Mike says and what we think. " I feel like this is often the attitude of our hearts when we hear something we are not used to or when we feel convicted. We autimaticaly stumble into the sin of pride and think that we know better than the pastor or person in leadership. When in reality God appoints the pastors and leaders in our lives to guide us in our growth and likeness of Him. The only way that system of leadership and growth is going to work is through obedience to the authority, no matter how different or outrageouse the thing we hear is (as long as it is backed up in scripture of course :)). I like this line a lot ” It is not a battle of opinions. It’s not a tug-of-war between what Pastor Mike says and what we think. ” I feel like this is often the attitude of our hearts when we hear something we are not used to or when we feel convicted. We autimaticaly stumble into the sin of pride and think that we know better than the pastor or person in leadership. When in reality God appoints the pastors and leaders in our lives to guide us in our growth and likeness of Him. The only way that system of leadership and growth is going to work is through obedience to the authority, no matter how different or outrageouse the thing we hear is (as long as it is backed up in scripture of course :)).

]]> Spencer Camp http://www.churchforhighschoolers.com/blog/who-is-your-pastor/#comment-35174 Sat, 02 May 2009 04:48:06 +0000 http://www.compasschurch.org/blogs/pastorbobby/who-is-your-pastor/#comment-35174 Taco Bell with the pastor... Not a bad idea. Good way to get some prime "spiritual coaching". Just like Phil and Kobe. Taco Bell with the pastor… Not a bad idea. Good way to get some prime “spiritual coaching”. Just like Phil and Kobe.

]]> Old man new heart, mindful of Jesus' last command http://www.churchforhighschoolers.com/blog/who-is-your-pastor/#comment-35173 Fri, 01 May 2009 13:39:52 +0000 http://www.compasschurch.org/blogs/pastorbobby/who-is-your-pastor/#comment-35173 Submitting to the authority God has put over us... That includes submitting to parents too! #5 on God's top 10 commands. I pray that we, parents, submit to God's will and that obedience, in turn, blesses the kids in the True North ministry. Who's your pastor? Submitting to the authority God has put over us… That includes submitting to parents too! #5 on God’s top 10 commands. I pray that we, parents, submit to God’s will and that obedience, in turn, blesses the kids in the True North ministry. Who’s your pastor?

]]> Mike L. http://www.churchforhighschoolers.com/blog/who-is-your-pastor/#comment-35172 Fri, 01 May 2009 06:48:40 +0000 http://www.compasschurch.org/blogs/pastorbobby/who-is-your-pastor/#comment-35172 What an encouragement! And we are definitely blessed to have pastors like we do at CBC! But like you've said, we could have the best pastors, but it does nothing for us if we are not submitting to what they preach from God's Word. Not doing so is rebellion against God, not just them. Thanks for the encouragement and challenge to make sure we are putting God's words to us through you into practice! And we should definitely hit up Taco Bell sometime. But i can't promise no gatorade... What an encouragement! And we are definitely blessed to have pastors like we do at CBC! But like you’ve said, we could have the best pastors, but it does nothing for us if we are not submitting to what they preach from God’s Word. Not doing so is rebellion against God, not just them. Thanks for the encouragement and challenge to make sure we are putting God’s words to us through you into practice!

And we should definitely hit up Taco Bell sometime. But i can’t promise no gatorade…

]]> Cherie Day http://www.churchforhighschoolers.com/blog/who-is-your-pastor/#comment-35171 Fri, 01 May 2009 02:04:33 +0000 http://www.compasschurch.org/blogs/pastorbobby/who-is-your-pastor/#comment-35171 Pastor Bobby, I hear you....sometime easier said then done, the view from the pew is that its hard to be accountable to a pastor or someone in leadership with the kind of numbers we have in our church, so direct involvement with the Pastor or Pastors is not realistic. Shepherding then is a little more difficult as in the early church, that is now done with certain ministries set up by the local body such as Compass does. Accountability though is even more difficult as we grow. Sometimes we who view from the pew might need to diligently seek someone , one on one to be accountable too, women with women, men with men , someone to pray with, be transparent with and hold each other accountable in our walks. This is not to say that we arent accountable to God first and foremost but this would be something that we submit to , because we want to. Pastors cannot be everywhere and cannot do everything, though they desire to be there to help the body, it just cannot be done, The Lord provides people in ministries, and some leadership who can fill the gap, the view from the pew is that we need to be accountable to someone we feel we know personally and can be transparent with, that dosent always happen with a pastor, or even a ministry leader, sometimes its just with another Christian who takes time to get to know me on a personal level and seeks my growth in the Lord as important. I hear you, I promise not to dump the Gatorade! Pastor Bobby, I hear you….sometime easier said then done, the view from the pew is that its hard to be accountable to a pastor or someone in leadership with the kind of numbers we have in our church, so direct involvement with the Pastor or Pastors is not realistic. Shepherding then is a little more difficult as in the early church, that is now done with certain ministries set up by the local body such as Compass does. Accountability though is even more difficult as we grow. Sometimes we who view from the pew might need to diligently seek someone , one on one to be accountable too, women with women, men with men , someone to pray with, be transparent with and hold each other accountable in our walks. This is not to say that we arent accountable to God first and foremost but this would be something that we submit to , because we want to. Pastors cannot be everywhere and cannot do everything, though they desire to be there to help the body, it just cannot be done, The Lord provides people in ministries, and some leadership who can fill the gap, the view from the pew is that we need to be accountable to someone we feel we know personally and can be transparent with, that dosent always happen with a pastor, or even a ministry leader, sometimes its just with another Christian who takes time to get to know me on a personal level and seeks my growth in the Lord as important.
I hear you,
I promise not to dump the Gatorade!

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